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Wyoming 4-H/Youth Development Program

Cooperative Extension Service

Livestock Committee Minutes—February 6, 2004

Laramie, Wyoming

The meeting was called to order at 6:00 pm by Steve Schafer, 4-H/Youth Specialist for Livestock, Equine, Poultry, and Rabbit Educational Programs.

The agenda items included: approval of the minutes from the last meeting (March, 2003), meat/market goats, expansion of the poultry show classes, wool judging contest participation, livestock judging contest participation, swine camp, livestock brochures, copying information from the newsletter, and new processing guidelines for cattle.  Items that were added to the agenda were: aging of animals and livestock judging awards trip(s).

Meat/Market Goats-------a request had been received to expand the Market Goat Show into a Meat Goat Show (meaning that Meat Goat Breeds would be shown in classes, in addition to the Market Goat Show).  This item had been discussed at the last meeting (March, 2003 in Thermopolis) and at that time it was decided to wait on this activity for a couple of years.  Also, those who suggested this change were not at the meeting, so no additional action was taken.

Expansion of Poultry Classes-----a request had been received to expand the number of classes for the Poultry Show at the State Fair.  A brief discussion about the various methods that could be used to accomplish this request was conducted.  However, like the discussion concerning the expansion of the Goat Show, it was decided to wait on this activity for a couple of years.  Also, those who suggested this change were not at the meeting, so no additional action was taken.

Wool Judging Contest------it was simply pointed out that participation in this activity was very low (a similar discussion was also held at the 2003 Wool Judging Contest).  As a result, this contest is barely keeping the minimum numbers to maintain it existence.  To offset this possibility, it was recommended the each county try to increase their participation in this activity (as well as all other activities).

Livestock Judging Contest----simply as a follow-up to the discussion held at the 2003 Meeting, it was pointed out the participation in the Livestock Judging Contest, since its move to the Wyoming State Fair and the inclusion of a Junior and Senior Division, has increased and that positive comments continue to be received.  Therefore, it seems that having this contest during the state fair has been a positive move.

4-H Livestock Brochures and Manuals------the final three introductory livestock manuals for 4-H were completed (making a total of nine introductory manuals) and they have been available since the beginning of the 4-H Club Year (October 1, 2003).  Also, nine livestock brochures have been authored and are currently on their third and final edit.  They are expected to be ready for use by the beginning of the next 4-H Club Year (October 1, 2004).

Swine Camp------a State 4-H Swine Camp was held in May, 2003 (hosted by Natrona County).  The evaluations indicated that it was a huge success and asked that it be repeated in 2004.  The date for the 2004 Camp has not been set, but a 2004 Camp is being planned.

Showring Code of Ethics----as per the minutes of the 2003 Meeting, a copy of the Showring Code of Ethics was sent to each county.

Copying from the 4-H Animal Science News------Steve reported that the newsletter is not copy righted.  Therefore, anyone can utilize the information contained within the newsletter.  However, he suggested that any article or whatever that is copied should have credit given its author and the 4-H Animal Science News.

Processing Guidelines------Steve recommended that due to the new processing guidelines for beef cattle, that each county should check with their local processes to see what affect or affects these guidelines may pose for 4-H Youth.  He said that he realized most of these guidelines were for cattle of 30 months of age or older and therefore did not pose any problems to market steers.  However, they will come into play for 4-H Youth if they end up with “downer cattle” and/or breeding cattle over 30 months of age that they need or want to process.

Aging Animals-----Ron Kaufman brought up the idea of changing the birth date requirements for animals to be exhibited at the Wyoming State Fair.  The thought is simply not have a birth date requirement, but to go by the age of the animal (which is what virtually all other livestock shows go by).  Example:  by definition, a lamb is a young sheep that still has its milk teeth (which are also known as baby teeth).  Therefore, all market lambs should have their milk teeth (otherwise they are not market lambs, because once they lose these teeth, they are no longer a lamb---they are a yearling)…..and this concept also applies to market goats and market steers (by definition they should have their baby teeth).  Therefore, the birth date requirement can be discarded and the age of the animal can be checked (by simply looking at their teeth) when it weighs in at the show.  No action was taken on this recommendation, other than the fact that input will be sought over the next year.

Animal Aging----during this discussion it was pointed out that the aging could work for everything except pigs.  Then, as a result of this thought, it came to light that some counties had changed the animal dates set by the state.  Steve reminded everyone that this could be done within a county, but then those animals that do not follow the date set by the state are not eligible for the State Fair.  Therefore, this needed to be policed very carefully by the respective 4-H Educator/Program Associate and/or their livestock committees and/or their County Fair Boards in order to ensure fairness for all of the other participants within their county and throughout the state who do follow the date set by the state in order to compete at the Wyoming State Fair, it is simply a matter of ethics.

Sheep Tails-----the docking length of sheep tails was brought up by Alex Malcolm.  A brief discussion ensued, but no recommendation was put forth by the committee.  It was simply a consensus that we needed to follow the guideline as stated by the Wyoming State Fair. 

Livestock Judging Trips-----Warren Crawford said he had heard that the Agribition Award Trip was not going to be offered in the future.  He and the rest of the committee were informed that this was correct due to changes made in the contest by the Agribition Administration.  However, to offset this, several possible alternatives were being considered for the fourth and fifth place teams.  After much discussion concerning possible alternatives, the committee thought that the Livestock Shows/Judging Contests in Billings, MT and in Rapid City, SD would most likely be two of the better choices to check on.

The meeting was adjourned at 6:50 pm.


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